I totally meant to post a link on here for you peeps but I spaced it, since I'm Space-Out Girl Extraordinaire.... Anyway, a few weeks ago I made a website on how to choose cat food when some people from the Something Awful pet forum asked me to. And you can view this work of art (snort!) over here: alter-idem.smartmonkey.org/cats/
A lot of the ranting will sound awful familiar to y'alls, but I'm pretty proud of the "how to interpret labels" section. When I have time I hope to add a comprehensive list of AAFCO ingredient definitions on there to make it even more useful. There's also a big page dedicated to a dissenting opinion, which is also good reading since it's good to have a variety of viewpoints. (OK, so there's only two on the website. So shoot me.) And the links section contains a LOT of links to research.
And hey, it features some nauseatingly cute pictures of cats, including a Cat Thug or two. Reprezentin', biatch! If you want me to swap the background to your Thug, e-mail me at the address on the website, I'll be pretty happy to accomodate.
A lot of the ranting will sound awful familiar to y'alls, but I'm pretty proud of the "how to interpret labels" section. When I have time I hope to add a comprehensive list of AAFCO ingredient definitions on there to make it even more useful. There's also a big page dedicated to a dissenting opinion, which is also good reading since it's good to have a variety of viewpoints. (OK, so there's only two on the website. So shoot me.) And the links section contains a LOT of links to research.
And hey, it features some nauseatingly cute pictures of cats, including a Cat Thug or two. Reprezentin', biatch! If you want me to swap the background to your Thug, e-mail me at the address on the website, I'll be pretty happy to accomodate.
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Mon, October 25, 2004 - 3:30 PMI need more time to read through it all, but it looks GREAT, Candy!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Mon, October 25, 2004 - 4:15 PMThe website looks fabulous! Very informative and oh so funny. -
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Mon, October 25, 2004 - 5:11 PMIt does lok great. It'll be a great place for me to point peope who look at me oddly when I suggest Raw!
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Mon, October 25, 2004 - 8:21 PMVery nice site. I esp. like the not-too-tricky math bits...since I'm not so good with numbers myself...
The bunny ears is nauseatingly cute...can't wait until that one;s changed....
Keep up the great work!!
--Natasha
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Tue, October 26, 2004 - 3:41 PMYou've given "hm" my servant a cause to never let me on the computer....But does this mean I get better to try even more food????
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Wed, October 27, 2004 - 8:34 AMGreat work Candy! -
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Fri, October 29, 2004 - 12:47 PMIndeed--two, or even four paws up! Whoops--I just fell over.
Nice work Candy--and I love the funny comments at the end of each page.
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Notes from the field...
Fri, October 29, 2004 - 4:15 PMOK, I took the list to Pet Food Express and talked with
Margie Young and Susan Fry (regional manager). They
added their recommendations and comments as follows:
Available at Pet Food Express:
* Newman's Own Organics -- cats don't seem to like it as much because it doesn't have enough chicken
* Solid Gold -- this is a terrible food according to Susan & Margie
* Wellness -- very popular, wonder why the warning against rice?
* Nature's Variety -- excellent but pricey
* Sensible Choice -- lesser quality than Royal Canin, but made/owned by the same company
* Avoderm -- older style food, not recommended
* Pinnacle -- really good food
* Felidae -- immensely popular, they can't keep the smaller size bags on the shelf
* Evolve - Triumph's top of the line brand, but they only carry canned
* Wysong -- carry both canned and dry, but note that any all meat canned foods of high quality are a safe bet (per your note)
NOT Available at Pet Food Express
* PetGuard -- never heard of it
* Innova -- sold only at 1-2 outlet retail locations
* California Naturals -- possibly a PetSmart store brand?
* Eagle Pack -- sold only at smaller retailers
* Advanced Pet Diets -- never heard of it
* Active Life -- sold only at smaller retailers, related to Breeder's Choice
* Precise -- never heard of it
* Natural Life - never heard of it
Recommend that you check out Premium Edge (www.premiumedgepetfood.com) and Royal Canin.
Premium Edge is the "store brand" for Pet Food Express (not manufactured by but highly recommended) and Royal Canin is a "top of the line" holistic cat food diet. -
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Re: Notes from the field...
Fri, October 29, 2004 - 5:10 PMHey, thanks for the comments! Here are some answers to some of the questions brought up, as well as questions of my own:
<<* Newman's Own Organics -- cats don't seem to like it as much because it doesn't have enough chicken>>
Hmmm. I think I may call Newman's Own and ask them for approximate amounts of animal proteins they use in their food (I'm especially interested in the canned food, of course). Their Turkey Formula canned food has to contain between 25-94% turkey according to labelling regulations, but that's quite the spread there.
<<* Solid Gold -- this is a terrible food according to Susan & Margie>>
Did they tell you why specifically? I'd be very interested to know since I occasionally feed their Blended Tuna to my cats.
<<* Wellness -- very popular, wonder why the warning against rice?>>
Wellness canned food is marketed as being grain-free. Well, as of late last year, one particular plant of theirs started adding rice to all their flavors without changing their label. Rice is extremely high in carbohydrates, and is also a food allergen for many cats; not only that, making such a significant ingredient change usually means the nutrient analysis will change, which means the label's guaranteed analysis was now worthless. You can read more about it in this thread: portland.tribe.net/thread/5...b1e804400
A similar warning about Wellness was posted on the very top of a webpage that records % calories from protein, fat and carbs from canned food, run by a woman with a diabetic cat (and therefore who has a definite interest in keeping track of carbohydrate values for cat food): www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmp...nfood.html
<<* Avoderm -- older style food, not recommended >>
What do they mean by "older style"?
<<* Sensible Choice -- lesser quality than Royal Canin, but made/owned by the same company>>
I like this brand because it's a very uncomplicated food with very simple ingredients. Admittedly the canned food is a touch low in protein (though still high-protein compared to dry), and it's a subsidiary of Royal Canin, but on the other hand it's a bit more widely available than many of the brands I recommended.
<<* California Naturals -- possibly a PetSmart store brand?>>
Nope, it's made by Natura Pet Products, who also make Innova and Healthwise.
<<* Advanced Pet Diets -- never heard of it >>
Made by the same people who make Avoderm and Pinnacle, i.e. Breeder's Choice.
<<* Active Life -- sold only at smaller retailers, related to Breeder's Choice >>
As far as I know, this is not true unless there was a recent buy-out. Breeder's Choice makes Pinnacle, Avodern and Advanced Pet Diets; Active Life makes Active Life and Boulder Creek Farms. The website contains links to all of these manufacturers' websites.
<<Royal Canin is a "top of the line" holistic cat food diet.>>
Royal Canin makes only dry food, which in my protein-obsessed mind is a definitely strike against it :) though it probably isn't to most other people. The majority shareholder is Mars, Inc., which also owns Pedigree, Whiskas and similar crap brands--strike two. The food contains significant amounts of corn and corn gluten meal--strike three. They also promote nonsense like "breed-specific" nutrition, making formulas for Persians, Siamese, Main Coons, etc.--strike four. Some of their prescription diets contain BHA and BHT as preservatives--strike five.
I find the regional differences in cat food popularity interesting, because three of the brands of cat food that Margie and Susan couldn't identify are sold in "natural foods" grocery stores in Portland (Whole Foods, Wild Oats and the like): PetGuard, Precise and Natural Life. These are also widely available in every holistic pet store I've ever been in, and are also available through petfooddirect.com. My favorite pet food store, Portland Pet Supply, say they can barely keep any PetGuard in stock because it's so popular.
If you're curious about any of those foods, I provided links to all the pet food manufacturers I recommended on the webpage.
I'll definitely check out Premium Edge. For somebody who makes her own cat food, I'm somewhat obsessed with trying out new commercial foods on my cats, heh. All in the name of variety.
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Re: Notes from the field...
Fri, October 29, 2004 - 5:16 PMOooh, actually, Newman's Own canned food compares quite favorably when it comes to % calories from carbs. The Turkey flavor contains only 4%, the Chicken & Salmon contains 5% and the Chicken & Brown Rice 7%. For a quick comparison, Felidae contains 6% calories from carbs and Wellness Chicken contains 4%. Information from www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmp...nfood.html -
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Tue, November 2, 2004 - 2:47 PMA Wellness update from the NYC area. I haven't seen a single can with the GW rice code in months, so I think its likely been distributed or pulled. And Blue is happy with his turkey Wellness--there is nothing else he likes that much (including virtually all the premium foods we've tried). -
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Tue, November 2, 2004 - 4:16 PMCool. In the two petstores I frequent, it's still GW for the 5.5-oz cans allll the way, with the little 3-oz. cans being the W code. My cats switch around as to what they prefer. Chicken & Herring used to be numero uno, then they decided Turkey was their favorite. Nowadays Turkey and Salmon is in the top spot, with Newman's Own Turkey coming second.
I just bought one of each flavor of Merrick's. The flavor names are hilarious. I'll test them out on the cats in the next couple of weeks and I'll review them when I do. I do wish they were a bit higher in fat. -
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Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:36 AMI'd be interested to hear what you have to say about the Merricks. My friend Allyson got a whole slew of flavors to feed to her cats (Emma and Christopher) and she had mixed reports. The textures vary widely and some were loved, others hated. I'm holding off on trying them on the Blue boy until I hear more (i.e. from you).
Blue was a huge turkey and salmon fan, then he went over to chicken and right now he'll barely touch anything other than turkey Wellness. Neither cat is that fond of the all-fish flavors and we don't have beef because of mad cow.
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Mon, November 15, 2004 - 2:59 PMGoddamn its nice to find people like you. Thanks for the excellent website and all your comments here.
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Sun, November 21, 2004 - 9:22 PMHey Ms. Pimpin,
thanks so much for posting the web site, it has some great info on it! My cat is having alergies to her wet food so I need to find an alternative and I got a lot of good ideas from your site. Thanks again!
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Sun, November 21, 2004 - 9:47 PMi love food! and I suddenly feel sooo much smarter about the kibble!
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Sat, December 18, 2004 - 3:18 PMwhich food I last bought for the kitties, so just got Premium Edge brand this time... definitely not the same one but the price was pretty good and I seem to remember you noting that it was decent in one of the other threads.
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Sun, December 19, 2004 - 11:46 AMPremium Edge looks OK. They make only dry food, it seems, so I'm not going to test it out on my cats any time soon. Ingredients-wise, the stuff that's not so great include corn gluten meal (cheap, inferior source of protein), egg product (why not just use eggs?), powdered cellulose (I've seen one vet fondly refer to this as "powdered sawdust" since cellulose is the primary insoluble, unfermentable fiber found in wood and grass) and natural chicken flavor (a good food with lots of meat generally doesn't need flavorings to help make it appealing to a carnivore). BUT keep in mind that almost all high-end dry cat foods contain these ingredients too; they're ubiquitous and very hard to avoid. So overall, for a dry food it's not too shabby. I noticed they have a high-protein, low-carb formulation, which would be better for a cat than any of the other formulations.
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Re: Pimpin' my own website
Tue, December 12, 2006 - 4:24 PMBUMP!!! This is a great website that everyone should check out. She also goes over different brands of cat food.